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Upon request, in the following are the Ancestors recorded in the Ng Clan of Teochew Jie Yang County.
Ancestor No. One:
Huang De San (黃德三) aka Ng Teck Sam. Born in Yuan Dynasty (生于元朝年間), residing in China Ning Hua (宁化) & Hokkien Pu Tian (莆田). In Late Yuan Dynasty, Beginning of Ming Dynasty, Huang De San migrated from Pu Tian to Chao Zhou Zhi Pu Du (直浦都).
The Grandson of Huang De San known as Huang Liang (黃亮) aka Ng Liang, was the Founder Ancestor of Chao Zhou Guang Mei County (广美俗名港尾formerly known as Gang Wei aka Kang Buey).
Ancestor No. Two:
Huang Zhi Zheng (黃致政) aka Ng Tee Cheng. Born in Song Dynasty (生于宋朝年間). Hometown in China Hokkien Province Pu Tian Area (祖籍福建莆田).
In AD1068 (till 1085), Huang Zhi Zheng was being appointed to hold the Position of Magistrate Officer ar Hai Feng County (海丰县), after the his Years-of-Magistrating ended, Huang Zhi Zheng refused to return back to Pu Tian and so, he stayed in Chao Zhou Jie Yang County. From then, he started his Family Lineage in Jie Yang County.
Ancestor No. Three:
Huang Dao Mei (黃道美) aka Ng Toh Bee. Born in Ming Dynasty (生于明朝年間). Hometown in Chao Zhou Chao Yang Long Pi Area (潮阳龙陂). Not much history being recorded.
shifu, check with you is the abv 3 ancestors of teochew Clan being pray by people ? if yes, do you hv their photos ? or how their statues look like ?
ReplyDeleteThen check with you, who is the deity of teochew people- i mean god.
for example hokkien wif surname lim, will pray ma zhu, hokkien wif surname tan pray kai zhang shen huang, haihanese pray hwa guang da di, hokkien with surname zhang will pray zhang gong shen jun
All the above are Real Teochew Historical Characters in our Chinese History and most of their descendants are still around, which you may be one of them.
ReplyDeleteUsually only the Descendants have their Pics or Painting. They cant be regarded as Deities, but form of Ancestors Honouring.
For Teochew, usually people will honour Teochew Pek Kong, which is Jie Zi Tui (介子推) which in Singapore, he appeared in Old Man form stepping on a Tiger.
Other than that, mostly are Buddhist Deities or Beings.
is it 感天大帝？？a full dress of general wif white beard carry a sword and stepping a tiger ?
ReplyDeleteYes is Gan Tian Da Di. But the statue is not correct, so it defeat the purpose of honouring that statue.
ReplyDeletethen how is correct the statue look like
ReplyDeletedo u hv the actual photo of 感天大帝 to show me ?
ReplyDeleteYou can go to the posting on Heavenly Master Xu Xun to see the actual form of Gan Tian Da Di.
ReplyDeleteI also got a posting on Jie Zi Tui.
Soon, I will be getting Statue Dealer to make a actual form of Jie Zi Tui, so do keep a close look up on that.... (might take a few months).
Xu Xun Tian Shi: http://javewu.multiply.com/photos/album/251/251
ReplyDeleteJie Zi Tui: http://javewu.multiply.com/photos/album/284/284
Shifu, thanks you very much for yr effort and explaination. So 感天大帝 is the deity for Teochew Clan as we know as Teochew Pek Kong. but in yr last replied you mentoned stepping tiger but by going thru the abv 2 link u advise and posted, why there isn't any tiger stay wif the statues but it become dragon- i mean some of his statues show he step dragon ??
ReplyDeletesecondly,back to my enquiry, so now we know for Teochew dialect, the protector deity is 感天大帝, then how abt the suranme Ng deity ??
shifu, sorry another question pertain to the abv 2 links, are they the same deity ?? or rather to say the same person ?? i mean is 許天師 & 介子推 same person ??
ReplyDeleteshifu, i had go thru the Q & A fm u below the abv 2 link and understand that 許天師 & 介子推 is NOT the same person, they are total 2 separate person. but then in yr both links u mentioned both are also pray by Teochew Clan and Hockchew Clan as protecor deity,. then who is the actual one or rather to say who is the real Teochew Clan deity ??
ReplyDeleteYes, they are 2 different people.
ReplyDeleteJie Zi Tui is being given the title of Gan Tian Da Di due to his Filial Peity.
Xu Tian Shi is given the title by Heaven due to his credit and merit.
Like what I have posted before, in total, there are 3 Gan Tian Da Di, the last one is already being forgotten by the Chinese.
Xu Xun Tian Shi dont really step on Tiger only, cos he had subdued alot of demons before, including Snake, Dragon, Tiger, etc etc...
Due to the background & hometown of Jie Zi Tui, mostly Teochew & Hockchew will pay respect to him.
And to be more accurate, Teochew Clan do not have any Direct Protector Patrons, unlike the other Clans.
shifu, is yr tailor make actual form of Jie Zi Tui arrive??
ReplyDeleteNot so soon, cos now I got 2 batches of new statues on hand. The new batches will needed to take at least another 6 months to come.
ReplyDeleteYou are interested in getting it? If so, I can order for you and ask them to send together with my first 2 batches.
honestly am interested but i must know some thing to check with you first before i can order.
ReplyDeletehow much does it cost ?? and how big is the statues ?? then how does the statues look like, do you hv any drawing or picture to show me????
All the statues that I ordered now is 12". As for the price, we will discuss in PM, cos in here, not very appropriate.
ReplyDeleteFor the picture, I will send email to you. What's your email again?
Thanks.
my email address is oldcat1973@yahoo.com.sg, pls email the price and picture to me when u available.
ReplyDeletethanks
Sure, will do it as soon as I can.
ReplyDeleteshifu, u hv not send me the picture of the statues ???
ReplyDeleteWil send you the pic once ready.
ReplyDeleteHi Wilson, in the following is the Blueprint for the Statue-making of Jie Zi Tui, do take a look and then email to me whether you going to order.
ReplyDeleteshifu, is your new tailor make statues ready ??
ReplyDeleteFor this statue of Jie Zi Tui, not yet.. cos I thou you are interested, so have to wait for your reply.
ReplyDeleteshifu, what is the price for order this 12 inch stutes >
ReplyDeleteYou can email me to discuss on the Pricing.
ReplyDeletejavecxwu@gmail.com
what is yr email address??
ReplyDeletesorry, overlooked that ypu already provide me yr email addres.
ReplyDeleteBy the way I had already email to you, pls check !! thanks in advance !!
Have send you the Full List of Pricing, do go thru it and let me know soon.
ReplyDeleteMillion Thanks.